Joined: Apr 27, 2019. Gibson had a lot of problems with that particular material because the government literally barged right in and seized all of their ebony. Being into cnc myself, I’m fascinated by the whole plek process. But if you want a Gibson guitar with an ebony fretboard now (since the aftermath) you are going to pay through the nose to get it. These guitars are worth every penny I’m seeing them sell for on Amazon.eval(ez_write_tag([[300,250],'guitaraffinity_com-leader-1','ezslot_6',109,'0','0'])); Epiphone gives you the same early 60’s construction as the original Gibson SG’s, a mahogany body and neck, and a pau ferro fretboard. This whole process used to take all day by hand. The Epi has very nice sealed Grover rotomatics; the Gibson has the traditional Kluson-style tuners with the plastic tulip-shaped buttons. Epiphone Limited Edition 1966 G-400 vs. Gibson SG Standard. Epiphone just started having these pots this year as well I believe. I do that all the time and it’s very useful. Epiphone are LICENSED by Gibson - but NOT made by Gibson. Whether it’s the tone, price, or body shape, you have tons of options to choose from to get the perfect instrument for your needs. You get a lot of bang for your buck here. The reason I like to do that is because it levels out the playing field as far as the natural acoustic tone of the instrument. This is one of those guitars. From beginning to end In my opinion the Gibson ones are a little better, but we’re talking fine shades of gray here. Les Paul vs SGâ¦ The Epiphone G-400 is also in the Gibson SG style, and largely similar to the G-310. EPIPHONE SG: A TIMELESS GUITAR. But on a guitar like this you definitely want the high ratio tuners. Itâs an SG all right, but with numerous player-driven, contemporary features, and a look that leaps decades beyond its early-â60s origins. That might be another factor to consider. I think that’s an important point, because it’s all too easy to get hung up on the name on the headstock and not truly consider your needs and budget. In this review, we looked past any preconceptions and emotions that many people feel when comparing Epiphone and Gibson. Remember that guitar companies change their instruments at times, so be sure to check out the respective company websites for the latest info on their guitars. Are you one of those players? differences when you pull the cover plates off. So keep an eye out for the stray limited edition Epiphone that surfaces every now and then. To me, differences are: - Price: Epiphone was 380 , Gibson was 1350 . I'm trying to decide if I take a PRS or a Gibson. My budget is somewhat limited presently. OK, I actually own both an Epi G400 and a Gibson SG (faded brown). Now it literally takes minutes. 1961 Les Paul SG Standard Reissue Stop Bar (it’s a time-tested business tactic.) The classic pro is alnico v while the probucker is alnico ii, A noticeable difference in quality from the regular alnico classics. I can say that for sure because my friend’s son has an Epi and I liked it so much that I went out and bought the exact same one! No noticeable noise difference. But the G-400 is a great guitar for the money, and worthy of serious consideration if you think the SG design is for you. I love the Les Paul SG but I'm having difficulty in reaching a decision between the Epiphone and Gibson models. A rounded profile mahogany neck, bound rosewood fingerboard, long tenon 19th fret neck joint, and a solid mahogany body provide the backbone for singing sustain. Below is a table comparing the Gibson SG Standard and Epiphone G-400 specs. All you can get in this country anymore is Indian rosewood. $25 is not a hefty price to pay to make their guitars so much more beautiful. So because you are not paying top whack Gibson prices don't be too precious about it and be prepared to rip out the guts of your new Epiphone G400 Pro to get a better guitar. History of Epiphone and Gibson. So which SG would you go Same for the Gibson. This might make the comparison seem a little unfair from the beginning. From the new Inspired by Gibson Collection, the Epiphone SG Standard ’61 harks back to the debut of the SG/Les Paul Standard with a Vintage Cherry finish and mahogany neck and body. Let’s do the time warp again with Gibson this time. Gibson uses rosewood for the fingerboard, while Epiphone has switched to pau ferro. You know what I mean? Guitar Gopher (author) on April 10, 2017: @Naetharu: This is hardly an "unfounded, speculative claim". The pickup's are a major factor. So in that regard, yes, they are similar. If it is at all reasonable, I think I’d much prefer to drop the extra cash on the Gibson. Well the good news is that it will not cost you a packet to fix but will need some time and know how investing in it if you don't want to take it to a guitar tech. The Epiphone G-400 isn’t a copy, and it isn’t a new idea. Really there is no comparison and I can't wait to ditch and replace the bridge pup. Messages: 87 Likes Received: 49. Although this SG doesn’t quite have the velvety woodiness of the very finest examples of the breed, it’s still an absolute blast to play and a rather wild and thrilling ride. Each instrument celebrates Gibsonâs legacy through accuracy, authenticity and attention to detail. Been playing Epi SG's for 25 plus years and it's still my favorite guitar. It has a huge price tag, but it is the closest you can get to that amazing vintage tone without actually owning a ‘59 Les Paul. The Gibson SG Special offers a stripped down and cheaper American made alternative to the Standard. SG's usually have "faster" when compared to Tele's. Otherwise, unless somebody understands what to look for they probably won’t know or care if you are playing an Epiphone or a Gibson. Of course the ultimate decision is up to you. but you might be wondering how it’s going to help you choose between Epiphone and Gibson. The SG (where "SG" refers to Solid Guitar) Standard is Gibson's best-selling model of all time. This makes the nut more of a tone contributer than say, the strap pin. Budget is $1500-$2000. Neck Profile -- the Gibson has a much thinner neck profile than the Epi. The Epiphone Prophecy Collection features iconic "Inspired by Gibson™" body shapes with a modern twist for players seeking to break tradition and set new standards. These guitars just don’t need one. Body Body Shape SG Bodyâ¦ While the specs read like they are essentially the same basic guitar when it comes to tonewoods, this isn’t something you should take for granted. …It’s sorta just slapped together. It remains in production today in many variations of the initial design. We then move on to the budget offerings from Epiphone to see how they compare at both ends of the market. Yeah, it’s the best kept secret in the guitar building industry and I’m blowing the lid right off it because I’m so sick and tired of looking at every single guitar in the store wearing plastic makeup! Past limited edition guitars with real ebony fretboards include: I hunt around myself for these online and this used section at Amazon from time to time because they are some of the best deals you’ll find! This is a very tasty looking SG model. Here’s what I think: It’s important to realize there is not nearly the same kind of massive price gap between the Gibson SG and Epiphone G-400 PRO as there is between the Gibson Les Paul and Epiphone Les Paul. quality comparison between the Gibson and Epiphone SG’s then later on Or if you still can’t decide, take a sidebar and check out the doubleneck SG’s from Epi and Gib. Needless to say, the Les Paul and SG both hung in the there and went on become two of the most beloved guitars in the world. First the guitar has a jig put on the headstock and bridge area, and is then inserted into the machine. To buy the SG Standard ’61 you’d have to spend 4X the price of the G-400 Pro. Is it worth it? However, Epiphone offers less expensive versions of Gibson models but also many models not found in the Gibson catalog. The Epiphone G400 is supposed to be a ’62 design, while the 2019 SG Standard ’61 Gibson is a reissued ’61 design. "Construction will certainly be, on average, higher-quality when it comes to Gibson instruments. 2) Materials – varies but generally sameeval(ez_write_tag([[300,250],'guitaraffinity_com-box-4','ezslot_2',106,'0','0'])); 3) Workmanship and attention to detail – on this point I definitely have to give the USA made Gibson’s the crown of authority. Remember: A great guitar player can make a good guitar sound great! Come to think of it, I don’t think they used plastic inlays in the 60’s either. Classic SG Powered by P-90-PROsâ¢ The Epiphone SG Special (P-90) from the new Inspired by Gibson Collection offers fans the legendary SG solid body electric with powerful Epiphone P-90-PROâ¢ single coil pickups. As mentioned above, the SG was originally released by Gibson in 1961, designed as a variation on the Les Paul design. After the scan of the fretboard is completed, the machining process begins, all while still under the simulated string tension. Mostly because of the players that played it. Well, read on and find out. I would rank them: 1) Gibson SG 2) Epiphone EB-O 3) Epiphone EB-3 I think a good compromise is the Gibby SG Special Faded. You will see fall off when you’re changing strings. The scarf joint construction tends to be more resistant to breakage as the grain, which runs straight down the neck, will end up running across the headstock on the Gibson as it angles back, making it more prone to splitting. The other epiphone is a 2002 made in korea g-400 tobacco burst. Right? But you have to ask yourself if the difference in price is worth it. Try shopping around for similar guitars, and you’ll be able to find something that you like more. Kudos to In fact you could not even classify it as an instrument. This combination is renowned for its resonance and sustain. I have a Epiphone G400 1966 edition and its awesome has a great sound and feel the pickups have a good clean tone and have nice crunch/muddy tone when you put a amp in overdrive all and all its a great guitar for $400. You can’t get Brazilian rosewood anyway ever since it’s been banned as an endangered species. You might not know this, but the Gibson SG design first came about as a replacement for the Gibson Les Paul. If you aren’t a fan of the SG, you may just want to move on completely. Great playability and great sound for a hell of a good price. No idea what the "resale value" of my Epi will be in 25 yrs. I have a 2019 Gibson SG Special with 500k CTS audio taper pots. And the American Qc has proven to me they are more reliable than Gibson lately. You don’t need a high ratio tuner in that scenario because the tremolo has fine tuners already. There are two vital places where string energy is transferred to the guitar, one at the bridge and the other at the nut. The mystery of how all things being equal but clearly aren’t is called “craftsmanship” and you get it in spades with the Gibson SG. Yea! Review: Gibson SG Junior, SG Standard ’61 Maestro Vibrola, SG Standard ’61 Sideways Vibrola The last 12 months have seen major changes at Gibson Brands Inc, with the company’s Original Collection intended to give Gibson fans the guitars they want at prices that won’t break the bank. Speak up! There are different versions of each guitar, which we will get into below, but this ought to serve as a decent base for comparison. It’s always been that way. Electronics -- the internal components of the guitar (which let's face it are just 4 pots, 2 capacitors, a switch, and a jack) are of higher "quality" on the Gibson, although there's nothing wrong with the Epi's components. epiphone Sg- the more expensive epi sg's could hold â¦ It's a no-brainer, right? 7. The neck feels "real" (for lack of a better term) whereas the Epiphone's neck felt "plastic-y". It'll save you $500-$600 over the SG … Epiphone – Wilkinson 18:1 tuning machines. After all these mods I love my Epi G400 Pro and it is now simply the best guitar I own. You can buy a pre-soldered wiring harness that uses the exact same components as the Gibson for about $80 (CTS pots, Sprague capacitors, Switchcraft jack and switch) and drop it in the Epi and see if it makes a difference. Guitar Gopher is a guitarist and bassist with over 35 years of experience as a musician. I also 100% agree with your bottom line conclusion. Here are the significant differences: 1. Epiphone's Ltd. Ed. They recently filed for chapter 11 and it’s unthinkable to allow this legendary brand to fold. But just like Squier, Epiphone is able to produce guitars that approach the quality of their more revered partner. You will have to wire up your next set of pickups to Gibson 50's humbucker wiring specifications to max the output. I'm probably going to swap out the Epi pickups some day; probably cost about $200 to put whatever set of pickup you want in either guitar. Les Paul vs SG… fall off your guitar if you take all the strings off. What it does mean is you have to ask yourself if the difference in quality is worth the difference in price. It’s a hard-rock tone machine, but easily at home in blues, jazz or country as well. 2 Volume, 2 Tone, 3-way, push-pull coil tap. Don’t be fooled by imitations! However, I know some players must stick to a certain budget, and I totally understand that. The Epiphone G-400 PRO In my opinion, the Gibson SG Standard is a pretty affordable guitar for what it brings to the table, and kind of a bargain. Quick and dirty, but definitely gett’er done, or wait a while, My choice are PRS SE custom 24 or gibson sg standard . RRP â USD 549 I’ve played an SG Standard before, but haven’t been able to play a ‘61 Reissue or the newer Standard ‘61. The Epi's wiring cavity is fully shielded but the wires from the pickups are not. One of the epiphones is a 2006 made in china 1966 reissue, I put an angus sig pup, sounds great but lacks in playability and frets are wearing out extremley fast. things. OK another couple of differences I have noticed: 1. If you’re a fan of early metal, but you typically play modern metal, you’ll want something a little beefier under the hood. Having played dozens of Epiphones and dozens of Gibsons over the past 30+ years, including both of these guitars on many occasions, I'm pretty darned certain that Gibson quality and construction is (typically) better. It has the shape, the style, and the feel and the dark color adds to the mystique. absolutely magic.&my 16yr old gradnson has just bought a epiphone sg pro. People, please use your customer feedback hotline. So, which will you choose: the Epiphone G-400 PRO or Gibson SG Standard? The G-400 also features a Tune-o-matic Bridge, all chrome hardware, mahogany neck and body. In 1957, the company that owned Gibson bought out Epiphone and since then, theyâve been sister companies. Jackson has a wide range of options. Manufacturers include Fishman, Seymour Duncan and EMG. Their JS22 SC is a great beginner guitar that has a classic shape. Other brands may make copies of the Les Paul, SG, 335 etc but Gibson and Epiphone are the only two brands that can really lay â¦ So we started taking a real close look at each other’s guitars and although you could tell they were made in different factories, the quality was pretty much the same.eval(ez_write_tag([[300,250],'guitaraffinity_com-medrectangle-4','ezslot_1',105,'0','0'])); The reason I mention it is because I see these discussions in the “forums” and a lot of it is just speculation. NÄkteré z Epiphone modelÅ¯ obsahují tabulku s Les Paulovým podpisem jako originální modely. So for this contest I’m selecting this G-400 Pro. It remains in production today in many variations of the initial design. (my wife & I bought him). Then it’ll sound better too. But here you get push/pull functionality to split the coils with your volume knobs which is pretty useful. I own 2 epiphone sgâs and a gibson sg standard. Won’t It is a true classic among classics in the guitar world, and if you play anything from hard rock to heavy metal the SG design might be exactly what you are looking for. Aside from the SG Standard, Gibson has a few comparable versions in their lineup: Epiphone offers fewer versions of their SG, but there are a couple of other options besides the G-400 PRO, most notably: As I’ve said throughout this article, in my opinion the decision comes down to how much you are willing to spend for an increase in quality. Same like the bridge. Today we’ll take a look at two SG’s from different places pitting the Gibson SG against the Epiphone SG. If you don’t know how to make one yourself, have someone make you one for about $50. $5 or less for real bone and they gotta use plastic? Of course Gibson has the edge here. So how does the is the Epiphone Faded G-400 Compare to a Gibson SG A_ChordWithNoName, Oct 22, 2019 #1. These are good pickups, especially in this price range. As stated the price differences are unreal and the quality is not worthy of that price gap.also the playing and materials (i.e..woods.) The thinner Gibson neck is more prone to breaking when it slides off the front of the amp where you leaned it to go take a leak. The Epiphone SG Special VE. for? I’m gonna get technical shortly so just bear with me! In fact I prefer it to rosewood for its tighter grain structure and manufacturers often even refer to it as rosewood, but it’s not. 1) Gibson SG Standard â61 2) Gibson SG â61 Reissue 3) Gibson SG Standard What are your experiences with these, and which one would you recommend? Plastic inlays for both. So if it is important to you to have a real ebony fretboard it might be worth your while to take a closer look at what you can buy from Epiphone because you will get it at fair market value, from time to time.eval(ez_write_tag([[300,250],'guitaraffinity_com-large-leaderboard-2','ezslot_4',108,'0','0'])); After the government seizure to get anything with a real ebony fretboard on it from Gibson is going to cost you an arm and a leg. Not too much sizzle, and fairly articulate. This happened quite often before Epiphone moved most of its production to China. Bone is an excellent material for nuts. Neck construction -- the Gibson's neck is shaped from a single piece of Mahogany, while the Epiphone's uses a scarf joint to join the headstock to the neck, and another joint to fill out the heel at the other end where it joins the body. Finish -- the Gibson is finished in nitrocellulose lacquer while the Epi is finished in some sort of poly. I have a 1994 Korean G-310 with a pretty slim neck Probably the "C" shape. Now I'm comparing a new Epiphone Elitist '61 SG Reissue with two new Gibson SG Standards, side by side by side. It’s an affordable guitar made with modern innovations and craftsmanship. The SG Modern is a great all-around guitar—everything you’d want from a high-performance SG, and probably a little more. variant simply screams rock and roll, so forgive me if I skip the DID I SAY HE'S BOUGHT.! Pickups can be changed, and if you decided you weren’t happy with the stock Epi pickups you could swap them out for Gibsons or something else down the road. You feel like a rock star playing the Gibson; not so much with the Epi. The point is the SG has a long lineage behind it, and in many ways the G-400 is a continuation of the magic Gibson created when it launched the original Les Paul SG. Once again, of course Gibson has the advantage here. You can find endless discussions about whether one approach is "superior" to the other. Get better pickups there are loads available some at reasonable prices. The short answer is that even a high end Epiphone will come up short when compared to a lower end Gibson of close to equal value and we’re only talking about a few hundred more for the Gibson.eval(ez_write_tag([[300,250],'guitaraffinity_com-banner-1','ezslot_3',107,'0','0'])); But there are some key exceptions to the rule that you should be aware of right off the bat and it has to do with materials, more specifically ebony. If you favor durability over tone, you need to look to Epiphone for their hard poly coats. The newly refreshed Gibson SG Modern incorporates many contemporary updates that players have embraced and it’s much more than a classic “solid guitar”; it’s a hybrid between an SG and a Les Paul. That’s what you get with a Gibson that you don’t get with an Epiphone. Another is the shape of the headstock. I have the Tony Iommi epiphone and I can say it is one of my favorite guitars that I play it has incredible sustain you can hit one note and it'll hold for a long time i have to say it is an incredible guitar for it's price and it comes with a picture of Tony Iommi and a few other things if you are a fan of the riff master Tony Iommi. introduction. The Strat's been too overrated I guess. Read up and Pay attention. Gibson SG Special. Snap on, snap off. It’s not really bad, just not as nicely balanced as the Gibson SG. Epiphone makes it easy to decide and I like that. Both plastic. I pick up a Gibson SG and immediately I’m like, “yeah” just by the general heft and solid feel as I take note of the impeccably manicured and bound fretboard. It’s really quite amazing! This combination is renowned for its resonance and sustain. Cost is a variable question, as the current most affordable Gibson, the M2, goes for $ They are pretty much in line with the differences I've typically seen between Epiphone and Gibson guitars. Nitrocellulose laquer is chosen specifically because it allows the wood to breathe. The Gibson feels a lot sturdier than the Epiphone. So, Epiphone gives us the G-400, their version of the Gibson SG. The bridge and tailpiece on both are pretty much equal as far as I can tell. So in this comparison, I feel that I have some decent knowledge relating to Gibsons and Epiphones. Both guitars have the basic controls you’d expect in an SG: Three-way pickup selector switch, and a volume and tone control for each pickup. On a sad note. The Epiphone SG Standard â61 Maestro Vibrola has the same spec as the regular â61 SG above just with a newly-designed â60s-style Maestro Vibrola. With the Epiphone G-310 SG you get authentic SG tone and sustain without the much steeper price tag of Gibson editions. Pickups -- different pickups yield different sounds. The G-400 (or sometimes G400) is an Epiphone solid body electric guitar model produced as a more modestly priced version of the famous Gibson SG.Currently, Epiphone is a subsidiary of Gibson and manufactures the G-400 and other budget models at a lower cost in Asia. It is not even in the same species. 5. Both guitars feature mahogany bodies with set mahogany necks. Though, I think some things such as neck profile will vary depending on year and exact model. I also have a 2011 Indo SG Junior with a fatter neck. I think you'd be hard pressed to tell the difference if you could do a true A-B comparison. Here you've just assumed it without any evidence at all. I have been comparing the Standard against the G400, and to be totally honest, the Epiphone has the edge right now. I imagine the Gibson's selector switch is more robust and will last longer (although I have no evidence to support this since both switches work fine so far). That way you’d be set up perfectly to simply toggle pickups to switch from clean to dirty without really needing to change channels on your amp. I think they go well with an all-mahogany guitar, which makes a lot of sense. But when it comes to USA vs Overseas, there really is no contest. Gibson SG vs Epiphone SG. So, more of the Epi’s neck projects and the strap button is closer to the pickups, allowing more of the neck’s weight to jut out and give it that tendency to drop. The value that you get for your money is tough to beat and if you take the time to do a nice setup you’d be hard pressed to get more for your money. It’s tough to compare the G-400 to a guitar three times its price, and made by one of the finest guitar companies in the world. The nitrocellulose finish Gibson uses is better, in as much that it sounds better and ages melower. I have played and owned many Gibson SG's. They’re made in the USA to very high standards, and their guitars show it. My choice are PRS SE custom 24 or gibson sg standard . Now that that’s settled, let’s jump right in and pick two SG contenders from Gibson and Epiphone. it’s a fine piece of American history. It featured a thinner flat-top body, a double-cutaway with contours, and a shifted neck joint for improved upper fret access. During the machining process each fret is dressed and crowned and finally the nut is slotted for the appropriate string gauge. While, admittedly, things get a little murky when trying to figure which woods guitars companies decide to use on which guitars, I think it is safe to assume the woods used in the Gibson version are of higher quality than the G-400 version. Some say this makes a difference in the "resonance" of the wood. It is a classic, just like the Gibson SG itself. Every studio guitarist will find a strat useful in their collection. 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